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Poster: ringolevio Date: Apr 28, 2010 9:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Zimmy off her Christmas card list? (non-dead)

>his condition has obviously affected her psyche

I think it's more like, her psyche effected this condition.

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Apr 28, 2010 9:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Zimmy off her Christmas card list? (non-dead)

one hand washes the other... or rakes and digs the other as the case appears

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Apr 28, 2010 1:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Zimmy off her Christmas card list? (non-dead)

You'd think Joni would be more upset that most people think "Wooden Ships" was written by CSNY, since their version is the one that got the most air-play. Odd, too, because she writes "By the time we got to Woodstock, we were half a million strong", and of course, she wasn't even there.

But i love Joni (her music, that is). Railing about Bob being "inauthentic" doesn't make a lot of sense, however.

yes, he changed his name (there are more than a few folks in R&R who did that), and w/out Woody Guthrie he may never have gotten started, but for crying out loud, here's a partial list of other great bands/artists who owe at least half their success to at least some level of plagiarism:

The Rolling Stones
Led Zeppelin
The Beatles
Elvis Presley
Janis Joplin
Nora Jones
Beck
Van Morrison
The Doors

and if Joni herself doesn't acknowledge her own debt to Billie Holliday, somebody should do it for her.

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Apr 28, 2010 1:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Zimmy off her Christmas card list? (non-dead)

You raise a valid point, I need to re-read "Long Time Gone" again, But I always thought Wooden Ships was the result of Stephen Stills, Joni, David C. and many others writing collaboratively aboard David"s schooner "Mayan". Again though I haven't read it since 91-2(?).
The portion that lets all the marbles to the floor for me, is how in one breath she explains her name change then in the same breath critizizes Zim for his/ Holy Hypocrite Batman...

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Poster: vapors Date: Apr 29, 2010 3:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Zimmy off her Christmas card list? (non-dead)

No doubt GC meant to type “Woodstock”, written by Joni.
Wooden Ships was written by Crosby, Stills, and Kantner.